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It seems that people in general do not know what debt ceiling means. Well, here is a "lightening up":The debt ceiling represents money that HAS ALREADY BEEN SPENT.It is not NEW MONEY that we are...

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valdobiade wrote:Darwinian natural survial has nothing do with  human perversion of the nature, with their mentality going into extremities. Really. You seem to think offering an example of a tribe...

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Alvida wrote:You seem to think offering an example of a tribe living in a cooperative, social structure disproves what I said, it doesn't. Hierarchy within a tribe still exists, albeit the whole tribe...

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valdobiade wrote:Natives had their share of violent encounters between their tribes, but I call it more natural Darwinian survival of species *at that time* than European so called "culture" of...

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Alvida wrote:"Before the modern society that we know a minority were at the top of the hierarchy and had it better than the rest, the gap between rich and poor is just a modern incarnation." Religion...

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"scratching head" emoticon was at 'darling'. I never said modern life wasn't artificial, hence, I say again, the rich poor divide is a modern incarnation of the primative hierarchy that was based on...

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Alvida wrote:...the rich poor divide is a modern incarnation of the primative hierarchy that was based on physical strength and dominance.Wrong answer!It is the notion of "property" that quantifies...

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valdobiade wrote:It is the notion of "property" that quantifies "the rich". "Property" was unknown word to the Natives of the "new" world.Hence 'modern incarnation'? Shall I just go talk to the wall...

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Alvida wrote:valdobiade wrote:It is the notion of "property" that quantifies "the rich". "Property" was unknown word to the Natives of the "new" world.Hence 'modern incarnation'? Shall I just go talk...

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valdobiade wrote:So, you'd like to say "fuck the poor", or "fuck the rich"?Will it disturb you too much if I say neither.The US debt exist because the rich don't pay taxes from the money they made...

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Alvida wrote:Will it disturb you too much if I say neither.My disturbance (in the force) is irrelevant, it is that you're not consistently keeping up with your "modern-pecking-order-rich/poor" theory....

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Alvida wrote: Ultimately, the rich support the economy.Actually, consummers do. No one gets rich unless people buy what they offer and get a little help along the way. Well, okay, the current...

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Propaganster wrote:Alvida wrote: Ultimately, the rich support the economy.Actually, consummers do.   Maybe you read what I said as only the rich support the economy? I meant they too are consumers, so...

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Alvida wrote:1. Maybe you read what I said as only the rich support the economy? I meant they too are consumers, so even if they avoid some tax they are paying a substantial amount of VAT on things...

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valdobiade wrote:The rich are "consumers" indeed, but their money circulates only in small area. Rich people do use shops.Wealthy "manage" money to make more money for themselves. It doesn't matter...

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Alvida wrote:Yes it can, like I've been saying for how many pages, you acknowlege it finally. This being so, ultimately the system is to blame.In how many pages were you saying about a system that is...

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US politics didn't suddenly become populated by the rich in the 1970s.

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Alvida wrote: Propaganster wrote: Alvida wrote: Ultimately, the rich support the economy.Actually, consummers do.   Maybe you read what I said as only the rich support the economy? I meant they too...

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Propaganster wrote:In most countries, the way tax laws are written, if they purchase things through their corporations they can get much of those taxes returned, actually. Even sales taxes are not...

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Alvida wrote: Propaganster wrote: In most countries, the way tax laws are written, if they purchase things through their corporations they can get much of those taxes returned, actually. Even sales...

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Propaganster wrote:Some write off more than they actually pay, Heather...I would think that's multinationals though and at that level governments are offering incentives to have business brought their...

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